The Spear: Who we are and what do we want? Conversation with our leaders- Abad, Biernat, Milić, Muller, Lamprecht, Vorobiev

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Our team is consisted of official representatives from seven European nationalist organizations. We come from different countries- it means that we can have different views on the most important issues. Interchange of ideas and thoughts between nationalists is crucial condition for success of struggle in our countries. That is why we have made mutual interview with our leaders- it will be beginning of special series in our magazine. Answers are published in alphabetical order:

The Spear: How did your great adventure with nationalism began? What did nudge you into making decision about starting your political/social involvement?

David Abad (Pueblo, Gladius):

I always felt a healthy concern for our history, so in a self-taught and self-critical way I began to be interested in different writers and intellectuals, as I was influenced by the determining political events that transformed the world from the 90’s. This led me to be interested in different National-Revolutionaries patriotic groups that predicted a terrible new World Order that, I have to say, have fallen short.

Bartosz Biernat (Third Way, 3droga.pl):

Practically since the very beginning of my life’s path, nationalism was never an “adventure”. Since the moment I began to deepen that idea; read, think, and self-define my identity – I realised that nationalism is, in fact, a way of life to me. With each passing year I felt more and more intensely that it is worth my engagement. The greater was the disdain I saw the New World Order display towards independent nations, the more I analysed the topic. This is how it was with everything concerning nationalism. This path has been going on for 18 years and yet I still find out about new facts, I still learn, and every new piece of information I acquire only ever strengthens my conviction that I’ve chosen the right path of life.

Lazar Milić (Serbian Action):

Serbian Action was founded with a goal to provide new paths in activism of Serbian nationalism and to be an example of christian nationalist organization whos activists and members, not only say, but act according to beliefs they believe in.

Maik Muller (Junge Nationalisten):

For many nationalists of my age, political socialization began in the subcultural milieu of the skinhead scene of the 1990s. However, I quickly realized that this expression of protest against social conditions did not completely fulfill me. So in the late 1990s I started my political career with the NPD and later within the comradeship scene and the so-called “free nationalists / national socialists”. However, as the composition and political work in these contexts are often not very consistent, I was thus led me back to the NPD and its youth organization, the JN. The NPD is the largest and oldest remaining nationalist party in the Federal Republic of Germany and offers me a political home in which I can find myself and contribute and realize my ideas. Today I am State Chairman of the JN in Saxony and a member for the NPD in a small City District Council in Dresden.

Erik Lamprecht (National-Social Front):

There is no single definable rationale behind my decision to join political activities. Being a deep rooted socialist and nationalist at heart I would have stayed being both even if I was not circumstancially brought into the ranks of the national movement where I was politically „activated“.

Stanislav Vorobiev (Russian Imperial Movement):

We believe that nationalism is inherent to every normal person. After all, love for your family, for your mother, for your people is a natural feeling of any person, and only a degenerate is devoid of this feeling.

The Spear: What is the core philosophy of your organization? What distinguish you from other groups of this kind in your country? What place do you see from your organization in society? What is your view on the future of nationalism in your country?

David Abad (Pueblo, Gladius):

Our Revolutionary Love for constituting a National Popular Community, led us to the rupture with an extreme right that is outdated and reactionary, but on the other hand represents a burden to us to make real policy, because of a System that is interested in relating us with this pseudo-patriotism, marginal and nostalgic, using for it all its propaganda machinery of mass media and the extreme left used as its irrational and violent vanguard. This extreme ideological clash places us in the middle of a very radical war between extremes in Spain, under a revanchist culture very fixed in our country for more than a century. Guilt of a political class interested in covering their antisocial policies by exploiting an unresolved Historical Memory, instead of solve, once and for all, a civil-war past that has planned over our People for decades and that urgently needs a true national reconciliation

Bartosz Biernat (Third Way, 3droga.pl):

First of all, we always wanted to be the ones who know what they are fighting for. We worked hard for our organisation to become an organisation of conscious nationalists. Today I think we succeeded. Whatever project wouldn’t we realise, we knew exactly why we were doing this and what is its reflection in the Idea we profess. With time, our involvement in public actions itself and exposing our organisation’s banners ceased to be a priority. That difference may be the most important thing that differs us from most of the organisations among our community. We don’t care for the media to only ever talk about Third Way, our activists don’t have to be guests in every possible piece of media, the multitudes of young warriors don’t have to join our organisation specifically – we are entirely deprived of personal ambitions. Of course some people may consider that a drawback, given that, as we know, one can’t accomplish a political success without a little pride. We, however, have never wanted to be politicians. We love our Idea – that’s before everything else. When someone else fulfils it, we’re just as happy as when we fulfil it. It also works in the opposite direction: when we see someone defile it and make it its own parody, we only feel greater motivation to work even harder. What I mean is, Third Way is not only focused on itself and its interests. It’s also focused on the entire nationalist movement in Poland.

Lazar Milić (Serbian Action):

Serbian Action is a Christian national-revolutionary movement that strives spiritual and statehood renewal of Serbian people. We struggle for unified Serbian state with authoritarian Christian rulership, for strong and socialy just country in which we would live as proud and free folk, not as enslaved and exploited „citizens“. Serbian Action was founded 8 years ago. It is composed mostly by student youth and young parents from working populous. So far, houndreds of serbian patriots have been involved with our activism. What differs us from other organizations is that we don’t want formal members, something practiced by political parties, but seek potential political soldiers and that is why there are certain conditions one must have in order to join Serbian Action – we demand our activist to apply our ideals in their daily, private lives as much as they can.

Maik Muller (Junge Nationalisten):

The Young Nationalists (JN) are a national youth organization in Germany. It is only us who operate on the same principles throughout Germany and who form structures in all parts of our homeland. We work according to political cornerstones that implement our local groups (bases) in their own way.

People: We are the only youth organization in Germany committed to the German-European principle of “origin.” We want to preserve the peoples and therefore demand equal rights for peoples instead of the bleak multiculturalism which has today already failed.

Homeland: We want to live and preserve our culture. Therefore, we continue the traditions of our millennia-old history, which is so closely linked to the country in which we live.

Freedom: Today, freedom of expression is preached, but this only applies to a small political caste within the Federal Republic and to their dull companions; idiotic consumerism and total “me-addiction” have worn out. People who think for themselves, idealists and nationalists, feel the harshness of the state apparatus when they demand real freedom and to live their lives according to their ideals. But the german youth cannot be stopped. We stand against the lack of freedom, the loss of values, against moral depravity and the prevailing hypocrisy. We have freedom in our blood.

Erik Lamprecht (National-Social Front):

NFS wants to fill in the empty space of the Czech national movemet. Up to this date, we were missing an organization which would ensure of the political activity of nationalists. Our goal was to grasp hundreds of potential national activists who had no one to be shielded by. Therefore this way „from the ground”.

Stanislav Vorobiev (Russian Imperial Movement):

Our organization is based on the classical triad – God, Tzar, Nation. It means that at the heart of our philosophy lies the Orthodox Christianity, as the foundations of everything that exists. Only a Christian correctly understands the world order, understands where the struggle between Good and Evil takes place.

Monarchy is an ideal form of government, devoid of irresponsibility and the idle talk in the Parliament. Moreover, Christianity believes that the Tsar’s power is ideal for humanity. A nation is what we talked about at the beginning. It is love for one’s own nation and a struggle for its ideals.

Concerning the future of our ideas in our country, we are full of optimism. Unlike European, mostly Western, countries, Christianity is not only preserved in Russia, but there is also a great demand for this religion in the society. In addition, the forms of communism and democracy have discredited themselves in the eyes of the people.

Let us also not forget that for almost 100 years of the communist yoke the Russian people were subjected to the greatest humiliation and abuse. Besides, Communists carried out an outright genocide in the country. And the current liberal-democratic regime as a continuer of the Communist cause seeks to completely destroy the Russian nation by bringing alien elements into the country, mainly Muslims and Asians. All this can not but outrage Russians and increase their craving for nationalism as the sole means of salvation in this situation.

The Spear: How would you appraise foreign policy pursued by your country? What do you want to change in it? What is your organization’s idea on this topic?

David Abad (Pueblo, Gladius):

Spain fulfills a determining geostrategic place, as it´s the key to access from Africa and the Middle East to the Atlantic, and in which we have different American military bases that fulfill a servile imperialist role that dragged us to Zionist wars in half the world from which we pay the consequences with several tragic jihadist attacks, in Madrid or Barcelona. That is why we claim not only for our political sovereignty, but also for financial and economic sovereignty from the world institutions.

Bartosz Biernat (Third Way, 3droga.pl):

The Third Polish Republic is a state that has been created to serve foreign powers. We must simply admit that it has never been and has never intended to become a sovereign state. After the fall of communism the group of communist dignitaries reached an agreement with the “democratic opposition”, the theoretically free post-communist was put on auction that was available to everyone. It has been definitely won by the United States and today that fact unquestionably reflects on that state’s foreign policy.

Our idea for foreign policy is very simple. Leaving the European Union, trade contracts and political contracts with as many political subjects in the world as possible. We want to be a partner, not a petitioner. To the USA, European Union, Russia, and China, of course, but we primarily believe in contracts sovereign countries that are not empires willing to absorb our economy. Economic sovereignty is possibility of doing business with every subject in its nation’s interest. With or without the sovereignty’s consent. This idea is the first thing that differs us from the Third Republic.

Lazar Milić (Serbian Action):

Currently, Serbia is ruled by treasonous liberal and socialist eurouniate cooalition that serves the interests of financial global oligarchy. Serbian Kosovo and Metohija are occupied by NATO forces that shields governence of Albanian Islamic terrorists. Serbian Bosnia and Herzegovina (Republic of Srbska) is under constant pressure from special EU representative and Muslim government in Sarajveo. And territory of Serbian Krajina is under Croat occupation after joined Croati-NATO agression known as „Operation Storm“ in August 1995. All in all Serbia is an occupied and divided dountry, so its hard to say it has any real and independet foreign policy. Formally Serbian government claims it strives to enter EU while keeping traditionaly good relations with Russia, however we think that is just a mask that covers the reality that the foriegn policy is made in Brussels and Washington. Far from that we idealize modern Russian Federation or to support their government, but we think that stratigic interest of Serbia is close and friendly relations with Russia. Considering the foreign policy of our movement it is very clear, we want Europe of Nations instead of EU dungeon which acts as a USA protectorate.

Maik Muller (Junge Nationalisten):

The arrogance of the german elites, who want to patronize and punish other european peoples, from Berlin and Brussels, can never, for us Young Nationalists, be the basis for working on a european level. To ward off the looming decline of Germany and Europe, we must reach out to those who, like us, fight for the preservation of european peoples, cultures and traditions. The goal of the JN, as well as the NPD, is to pursue a Europe of free and sovereign nation-states. For only with strong nation-states will a true Europe of free peoples be able to survive and secure the future of our peoples and cultures.

Erik Lamprecht (National-Social Front):

We deprecate the foreign politics of the Czech Republic from A to Z. We cannot agree with the geopolitical inclusion of our country into the western sphere of the USA‘s and Israel‘s influence. We also cannot agree with our membership in the European Union or the agressive pact of NATO. Our alternative is a sovereign national state economically cooperating with other similar states.

Stanislav Vorobiev (Russian Imperial Movement):

The foreign policy of the ruling regime is the policy of a colonial administration, ready for any crime against its own people for the sake of an approval from masters in the West. There is no doubt that the treacherous policy of the Kremlin liberals against the Russian population of Little Russia, Red Ruthenia and Novorossiya has already caused numerous deaths among the innocent population that is being destroyed by the Ukrainian invaders, whom the Putin regime regards as partners.

Our foreign policy will undoubtedly be aimed at the reunification of the one and only Russian nation, which is now divided between several pseudo-state entities formed after the division of Russia into several pieces. We do not trade our Russian land. Therefore, our foreign policy will be aimed at eliminating this catastrophic injustice. The Russian people have the right to reunification on their own land.

The Spear: What is your attitude towards Europe? How do you perceive it? What is place of this topic in your political and ideological concepts? What do you think about institution of European Union?

David Abad (Pueblo, Gladius):

Brussels has only served to deindustrialize and relocate our countries, creating a dictatorship of oligopolies that have impoverished regions at the expense of the greed of others. However, we consider rescuing another idea of Europe that we don´t share at all with that chauvinist and xenophobic liberal “euroscepticism” from other times, since we assume the need for a multipolar alternative to the American Zionist axis. We could have an example in Greece, where it was unworkable for it to be able to be free itself from the debt and the plundering of the Troika, that is why we need to build ties towards a true European common community until the Urals, returning us an independent Sovereignty from the Dollar giant, NATO and the IMF-World Bank, which drag us to continuous wars and periodic crises, such as the last conflict regarding Iran and the consequent rise in the price of hydrocarbons.


Bartosz Biernat (Third Way, 3droga.pl):

Europe, as the source of the original western civilisation, is a continued source of inspiration to us. The Roman law, Greek culture, and Christian morality stand on the fundamental of our identity. We feel brothers of every European, and, as every normal person, we do not agree for the greatest culture under the sun to be replaced with the synthetic modern western civilisation based on materialism and the antithesis of everything its predecessor ever created.

The latter is the one the European Union represents with its existence. If we, as nationalists, want to return to the true Europe, it not only has to happen on the without of the EU, but also against it. Regardless of the economic rivalry with the USA or the political one with Russia – we ourselves do not reject the possibility of common activity on various fields with other countries in Europe, however, it can only occur among structures which activity is not aimed against the essence of our culture. Today, the greatest foe of Europe is the European Union, and it is the European Union that must be destroyed in the first place.

Lazar Milić (Serbian Action):

We opposed zionist EU concept of occupied Europe. We advocate true european solidarity, Europe of Nations, because we live on european soil which connects us with other Europeans. Also, indoeuropean and Christian identity are marks of common tradition of all nations of our continent. EU as an embodiment of antaltistic principals on European soil is not compatable with Serbian spirit and Orthodox Christianity, meaning that any sympathy with the concept of EU opposes the will of Serbian spiritual renewal. Besides antichristian princpiles of EU, it is clear tendency of destroying biological bodies of European nations and creation of „gray race“ by constant migration of African and Asian population and promoting interracial and intercultural mixture by EU and other certain World centers of power. The final goal of it is to transform a European person into mindless individual which would be ripe for any kind of exploation. Also practice of how EU functions, we see surrendering of one nations souvereignity to EU, leads to political and economical enslavement.

Maik Muller (Junge Nationalisten):

Personally, I am a fully european nationalist. I love the diversity of the european peoples and cultures, have many contacts with friendly activists and organizations in other european countries and regularly attend their events. As german nationalist organizations, for the NPD and JN of course, german politics and our own homeland come first. But we are aware that without a strong and free Europe, the german people’s existence will also be threatened, just as a true Europe cannot exist without strong and sovereign nation-states. That is why we are fighting with our MEP Udo Voigt, the Alliance for Peace and Freedom, the Europa Terra Nostra Foundation and on many other fronts for a Europe of free and sovereign nations. For us, the European Union is an instrument for oppressing european peoples and NATO is their tool.

Erik Lamprecht (National-Social Front):

Is has to be completely obvious to everyone where Europe is headed shackled the chains of the European Union when they look into the streets of London, Paris or on italian and greek shores. And those are the most glarring examples. The whole EU project of course stands on rotten zionist groundwork and its transformation at this point is not even worth consideration. The New Europe has to be rebuilt from scratch on the basis of smoldering ashes. The corruption has gone on for so long that there is most definitely no other way.

Stanislav Vorobiev (Russian Imperial Movement):

As for Europe, we have a very clear position. Russia created a unique civilization which is qualitatively different from the European or Asian civilizations. We believe, however, that due to the common origin of the Russian and other European peoples, and also due to the nominally common Christianity, Europe is our natural partner in the struggle for survival amidst the unceasing expansion of the Hamitic peoples and the Islam imposed on Europe.

We offer cooperation to all European nations in their struggle for national identity and spiritual revival. We believe that the creation of the so-called European Unionwas inspired by the enemies of Europe and European peoples, because the whole mechanism and the whole ideology of this Union is aimed at the destruction of nations and the creation of a kind of a Babylonian confusion of the peoples of the whole world.

Besides, this Union pursues the policy of electronic slavery, creating conditions for the transformation of Europeans into animals which only serve to bring profit. This policy is beneficial to international corporations and the banking parasitic capital, but not to European peoples, whose morality and identity are being destroyed.

The Spear: What is your attitude towards question of cooperation between European nationalists? What is your view on problems connected with historical feuds and border revisionism?

David Abad (Pueblo, Gladius):

The Third way Communitarianism must overcome these xenophobic and ethnocentric tendencies, evolving towards a rupturist, unitary and transversal Revolutionary movement. That is why pan-Europeanism would overcome all those scars of the past by uniting nations separated by borders in the same struggle. Where such globalized world needs the collaboration of all patriots, not only Europeans, as the recent events in Syria have shown to us, where we Europeans have been able to share trenches with Arab patriots in defense of our Freedom and sovereignty.

Bartosz Biernat (Third Way, 3droga.pl):

By now, that cooperation is something that we must have rather than just need should have. The European nationalists have to work together. To exchange their thoughts, to cooperate, to create common projects and initiatives. Otherwise, our enemies’ advantage will only ever increase. Of course, looking at various nationalist organisations you can have an impression that, on many fields, it’s been forgotten what nationalism actually is about. That makes the cooperation of European nationalists a challenge to each of us all the more. Let’s learn from one another. Let’s exchange our thoughts and experience. Let’s act and fight the common enemy.

Historic occurrences and territorial revanchism shouldn’t influence our relations at all. What kind of rivalry between European nations can there be if those nations haven’t even been freed so far? It’s not possible to change one country’s fate in separation from the rest of Europe. Today we have to realise that not only we need a pan-national revolution, but also a pan-European one. That’s why every victory of an idealistic nationalist from Germany, Russia, or Spain is our victory as well, and every one of those will be respected by us. Whether we share the same values depends not only on them, but also on us. If we refuse to talk with a nationalist organisation because of historic conflicts today, tomorrow it may turn out that we will have bred an anti-nationalistic imperialism or chauvinism that way.

Revision of borders should be an even easier problem for nationalists. A nation should have its borders where it truly functions. Therefore you can’t just revise borders and take away cities that belonged to your people in distant past. At this point, I must also mention that I found those infamous screamers who call for a revision of borders for their anti-national states extraordinary pathetic. Let’s reclaim our countries first, then create their governments and national economies. Let’s rebuild Europe. Truly, we have better things to do nowadays than draw on maps meaninglessly.

Lazar Milić (Serbian Action):

Serbian Action is in contact and cooperates with different movements and groups around the world, for instance with Polish Third Way, Russian Imperial Movement, Greek Golden Dawn, German NPD etc. We hope that our future cooperation will be even stronger and that we will establish relations with many more groups. Considering our stance on Historic feuds among european people or border revisions we think that chauvinism is certainly the enemy of European unitiy and ally of enemies of Europe – Zionists and Islamists.

Feuds from the past or border disputes between European nations must be overcomed for the sake of European unity. That isn’t always easy but the good thing is such spirit is being more and more prominent. And we act in such spirit: we don’t forget our martyrs but are ready to cooperate with reasonable nationalists, even with those whos nation at some point in history commited a crime on Serbian folk. Of course, only under conditions that those nationalists don’t glorify and are proud of said crimes and have no chauvinistic territorial pretensions. However, there exist such cases where peace and cooperation is not an option, cases such as Croatian „nationalism“ which is based on hatred of Serbs and has been and stayed an ally of Balkan Muslims and Albanians. In Summer 1995. such „nationalism“ with the help of USA airsupport committed a new genocide on Serbian people. That „nationalism“ is based on traditional genocidal Ustashe movement which during WW2 cruely massacred hundreds of thousand of Serbs, all the while in its propaganda rejected Slavism, spreading false ideals of Croats having germanic origins. Precursor of such „nationalism“ was founded by Austrian Jews, so by its contents is a treason from Christianity and Slavdom, and represents a foreign body on European soil, just like their allies are – Albanians and Muslims.

Maik Muller (Junge Nationalisten):

In view of the threat to all european peoples, cooperation among Europe’s nationalists is more necessary than ever. It is clear to the JN that new contacts cannot grow on the basis of historical conflicts. Only respect for the sacrifices of our European brothers and sisters enables us to demand law and justice for our own victims as well. This concerns historical conflicts as well as border disputes and territorial issues. We must recognize that none of us is currently able to seriously discuss or resolve such issues. This realization also clearly distinguishes us from the chauvinists, whose energy is directed by interested forces in a wrong, negative direction in order to continue to separate the peoples of Europe and to set them against each other. We are against that. .

Erik Lamprecht (National-Social Front):

Cooperation between European nationalists is the only way to save Europe and European countries if we do not want to conform with the fact that we have lost the fight against globalists. Supposed historical disputes foisted by third parties do not interest me in the slightest.

Stanislav Vorobiev (Russian Imperial Movement):

We believe that now it is necessary to forget the historical events that divide us, for the sake of the future of our peoples. We are now facing the threat of a physical destruction and the total loss of our national identity. In the face of this threat, it is necessary to discard all the issues that separate us and unite our efforts in the struggle in two directions: internal – against the cosmopolitan treacherous policy of our governments, and external – against the expansion of Hamites and Islamites. Unless we do this, we can easily lose on all fronts.

It is only our enemies who profit from sowing discord among our peoples, for the “divide and ruleprinciple always works, which is why our enemies use it. We showed an example of reconciliation at a meeting with Swedish nationalists and in the participation of Russians in the march in commemoration of Charles XII. It was a symbolic reconciliation between Russia and Sweden. We offer the same reconciliation to all European nations. It’s not the time to quarrel in the face of such a dangerous enemy.

The Spear: Our team consist of nationalist organizations from seven different countries. Therefore we can assume that, wide audience of European nationalists will read this interview. So what would you like to convey them at the end of our short conversation? What would be your message to the dozens of nationalist activists from different European countries who fight everyday for their nations?

David Abad (Pueblo, Gladius):

It is vital to give voice to the dissidence of our peoples, making visible our ideological line overshadowed by a populist and pro-Zionist right that intoxicates our Revolutionary proposals, towards liberal positions that move away from our struggle against capitalism and for the authentic European values.

Bartosz Biernat (Third Way, 3droga.pl):

I would like to whish all nationalists permanent idealistic development. Books and friends are our greatest strength. Take care of your love to your country, our great idea, and Europe. Never be ashamed of your views. Fight for them, even if you were bound to lose. Live this way every day so that at the end of your live you will not feel defeated.Never give up. Because if not us, who will save the world?

Lazar Milić (Serbian Action):

Serbian Action thanks and greets all European nationalist on support for Serbia and its people. Never give up on the struggle for out European fatherland because the future of our children depend on us! As Apostle teaches us: Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. (Rom 12,9). This way we will defeat our enemies and ther New World Order. Long live Europe of Nations!

Maik Muller (Junge Nationalisten):

Loving, preserving and protecting one’s own without despising the other is the great challenge we all face. So let us not be distracted from our way of exploring and advancing the possibilities of european nationalist cooperation. Against all odds and above historical barriers!

Erik Lamprecht (National-Social Front):

The aforementioned implies that the future of our continent actually lies solely within our own hands. Comfort and laziness aside, there is no room for those for the last Europeans. Only together we can fight the future out for our Europe.

Stanislav Vorobiev (Russian Imperial Movement):

In the end, I would like to emphasize that without the concerted actions of the nationalists of Europe and Russia, it will be very difficult for us to win. In this regard, during the Conference of European Nationalists that took place in 2017 in Paris, we put forward the idea of creating the International of Solidarity of European Nationalists. Besides, we plan to hold a conference called “The Last Crusade”, where the idea of the liberation of the countries of Europe from a heterodox and foreign stronghold will be voiced.

We extend our offer to join these initiatives in order to save the white and Christian Europe.

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